Tuesday, May 11, 2010

Spring Admission Deadline Changed to Sept. 1

Every May, a small group of UGA admissions people gather to discuss the past year's admission cycle, and to look at the next year in order to plan out the admissions process for the future. We talk about what worked, what needs to be tweaked (or changed altogether!), and how we can make the next year an even better year for both admissions and the applicants. Over the next month or so, I will talk about the changes that are in store for the application process, but I thought I would start with the easiest one.

For the Spring 2011 term, the deadline for both applying and submitting all required materials is shifting from September 15 to September 1. This might not seem like a big deal, but we hope that this will give us more lead time for freshman and transfer application review for the Summer/Fall 2011 terms, while still allowing Spring applicants enough time to get in all the necessary materials. Two weeks saved in September means two possible weeks saved later in the process. Applicants should have no problem getting in Spring work, and if they are attending summer school, they should still have almost a month to get in that work.

So it is official, the Spring deadline is now September 1!

Go Dawgs!

58 comments:

  1. patient fall transferMay 11, 2010 at 6:56 PM

    hi. i was wondering since i am accepted and already registered for orientation do i need to do anything at my old school to make sure i can enroll at uga?

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  2. pft: You will need to send a sealed copy of your updated transcript to UGA so we can post any new work.

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  3. Quick question,

    I will be applying for Spring 2011 with exactly 60 credits. I checked the transfer equivalency chart and all of my credits transferred.

    Will my transferable credits be different (lower or higher) once you guys put everything in the system? Or will it be the same?

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  4. Anon: I would assume that all the credits will transfer, but we cannot be sure until we review the transcript. For example, UGA only transfers in 1 PE course (courses that show up as coming in as PEDS courses), so if you took 7 golf courses, then I would not think so. But the transfer equivalency site is very accurate, so if you read the transfer admission website and the instructions for the transfer equivalency, you should come away with a pretty good idea of how things come in to UGA.

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  5. i've a question,am a permanent resident but i attended my high school in my home country(graduated in 2005) not here,so does that mean i should follow the international student application guide or the non traditional guide?

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  6. Victoria: Since you are a permanent resident in the US, you would not need a visa to enroll (my guess), so you would not be an international applicant. If you have never attended another college, and since you will have been out of high school for 5+ years, you would then apply as a non-trad.

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  7. David,

    I think you meant PEDB courses, not PEDS. I don't think we have a PEDS prefix.

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  8. Paul: Since I did not know what college you attend (and since this applies to all transfer applicants), I used the UGA PE terminology of PEDS that you see under the UGA courses when you do research on the transfer equiv. site for PE classes.

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  9. okay,so if i apply as a non-traditional student,do i need to take the compass test?or the SAT test?(i already took my SAT's am waiting for my scores) plus do i have to evaluate my high school transcript through johny silny or i can just send it as it is?

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  10. Victoria: As a non-traditional applicant, you would need to submit an application, transcripts from both high school and any colleges attended, and some form of a college placement test (the SAT is fine). You would also want to write a letter describing what you have done since graduating HS in 2005. You do not have to send your HS transcript to J. Silney for evaluation.

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  11. Hey, so i just got accepted as a transfer for fall today and i have a question. On my application i stated that i would be attending summer school as part of the classes i would complete proir to attending UGA in fall 10, but my summer plans have now changed and the 3 hour course i planned to take i am no longer going to. will this affect my acceptance?

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  12. Emily: We base your admission on the classes you have completed and the grades you have received, so if you are no longer going to be taking summer classes at your previous college before starting at UGA in the fall, that is okay.

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  13. Hey, I am planning on applying to transfer to UGA for the Spring 2011 term. I just finished my first year of college, 30 hours with all of them transferring according to the Transfer Equivalency search, and earned a 3.8 GPA. Also, I have never been in any trouble or anything like that. Even though a couple of those classes were easy (ex: freshman experience), would you still consider me a strong applicant? I am in-state and worked very hard my first year. Thanks!

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  14. Jeezy: In our review of a transfer student, we are focusing on your grades and hours, so you seem to be very much on the right path to being admitted at UGA. I cannot say yes or no, as I do not ever guess if we do not have the application and transcript(s) in front of us, but you seem to have done what we have suggested in preparing yourself to transfer to UGA.

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  15. I have a few questions. When will the Spring 2011 application be available online? And would admissions receive my transcript if i sent it now, prior to completing the application?

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  16. Anon: The spring transfer application will be available in mid-late June. As I expect about 2,000 college transcripts and 5,000 final high school transcripts to be sent into our office over the next 3 weeks or so, I would suggest you wait just a little while to send in transcripts for Spring 2011 admission.

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  17. Hey, I was just accepted off the wait list for the spring 2011 semester as a freshman and I was just wondering if there was anything I could do to attened UGA in the fall. Should I just accept the fact that I can only come in the spring? And how do they determine how many people to let in for spring?

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  18. Morgan: Unfortunately, Spring is the earliest option that we can give you. We can enroll roughly 200 freshman for Spring, based upon on-campus housing options (remember that living on campus is a requirement for freshman).

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  19. Ok, I want to transfer to UGA and i have a 2.9 right now after 30 hours at Clemson. BUT the deadline has passed for fall. If I apply for spring transfer 2011, will my fall 2010 grades be counted for the Sept 1st deadline? or do i need to take summer classes? UGA MAKES THIS SO HARD!!

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  20. Nicholas: UGA will only evaluate the work that is completed and in our office by the deadline, which for Spring 2011 is Sept. 1. This is actually very basic and direct, as we have a specific deadline, all materials must be in by then (application, transcripts), and we will then review the file. Fall 2010 classes and exams will end in mid December, so we cannot use them for Spring.

    This situation (spring transfer applicant) is actually the easiest to show why we cannot use work completed and sent after a deadline. Generally, the earliest we can get fall term work is late December. UGA has a holiday break for the last week of December and the first part of January, and classes begin a few days after that. In other words, this gives us about 5-10 working days between when you might be able to get us a transcript and the start of classes. Since we will have 1,000+ students beginning in Spring, there is no way we can handle this turn-around time to review your fall work for spring admission.

    As such, we have a deadline which allows you to get summer and before work to us easily, gives us time to give you a decision in enough time to make plans, and allows us to work on future applicant's files (the 10,000 or so EA freshman applicants, etc.) in the fall.

    I hope this helps explain why our deadlines are the way they are, and how our process operates.

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  21. I was on the wait list for Fall or Spring. I now received word that I was not accepted for Fall or Spring. Does this mean that you will not accept any new applicants for the Spring even though the deadline posted for application is September 1? If you are accepting new applications for Spring, I should have been accepted or at least waitlisted for the Spring because I was one of a "select few" on the wait list. Please explain how I am good enough to be on the wait list but totally out of the running for Spring against new applicants.

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  22. Martha: UGA generally has about 50-100 freshman apply to for Spring term, and they are reviewed in the same way that freshman are for Summer and Fall. They may have taken a semester off, be graduating in December, etc. If they meet admissions standards, we will admit them, and if not, then we will not admit them. But we will not treat them differently because they did not apply for the previous summer/fall.

    We have admitted students for Spring based upon space, with the understanding that maybe about 15-20 new spring freshman applicants will enroll (based upon history). We cannot admit all wait-list students for spring, as we would not have room for them. We also have a few denied students who do not attend college in the fall and apply again for spring, but I do not suggest this, as we are looking at the same standards for new spring freshman as we did for summer/fall, so an acceptance is not promising.

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  23. The wait list is students on "hold" until space is available, correct? If you have openings for the Spring, why are not more students on the wait list given the opportunity to be accepted into the Spring Semester? Why have you turned students away on the wait list for the Spring?

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  24. Martha: As I stated earlier, we always have a small number of students who apply for the Spring, and we will review their files and make admissions decisions. We will generally have 15-20 that enroll, and so when we made plans for admitting wait-list students for spring, we took this number into consideration when looking at how many spring offers to make off the wait-list.

    I understand that you may not agree with this, but it is how UGA has made plans for Spring enrollment when considering space availability. There are a small number of very strong freshman applicants who apply for Spring every year, and we want to review them in the same way that we do freshman for other terms, and make sure there is space for them in the Spring. We believe this is a fair way to treat these applicants, and overall a fair way to manage the admissions process.

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  25. How many students who are accepted end up having to take remedial courses because they did poorly on the placement tests during orientation?

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  26. Anon: I am not able to track this data, but UGA has a very limited number of students who have to take any type of remedial courses.

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  27. Are the placement tests created by UGA or the Georgia University System creates one for all of the colleges?

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  28. Anon: Generally, the placement tests are created by the UGA department.

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  29. By the time I apply as a transfer for the spring 2011 I'll have exactly 60 credits and a 2.87 gpa after doing the calculation from my rejection letter that showed how many credits were transferable and the cumulative GPA. If I were to be rejected again for the spring, would I have time to appeal it with my fall 2010 grades? I'd imagine that the 4 or 5 classes I take in the fall would make a difference in my gpa so that I would get out of that grey area for admission as a junior transfer.

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  30. Anon: I generally tell applicants to take one step at a time, as you would want to have your updated work reviewed to see if you are admitted or not before thinking about any other steps.

    Just so you know, though, Fall grades are the most challenging thing to work with for Spring applicants due to the timing of things. Fall grades are generally not available until mid-late December, and most colleges have a week long break in late December. Classes then begin at the end of the first week of January, so we have almost no time to do anything with Fall grades. An appeal would not be able to be based on fall grades, and if a student is admitted and enrolls at UGA in the Spring, I would suggest making sure to get us their Fall grades ASAP so we can post them to their file before they start classes.

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  31. I applied for this summer and was not accepted because all of my credits did not transfer. This left me with only 59 credits and a 3.15 GPA... so basically just one credit hour short of acceptance. Therefore, I have to go somewhere else and take at least one more class in order to get in. I have considered several options on how to go about doing this, but most don't seem to be working out for me financially and schedule-wise. I was looking into attending Athens Tech for this coming quarter, but the final day of classes is September 1st, so I would be done with classes but would not have my grades in by the time the new UGA Spring deadline comes, since it is coincidentally the same day. I could attend Gainesville and was already accepted there, but typically the classes I need fill up before new students can register. Also, that would mean the earliest I would be looking at getting into UGA again would be next Summer or Fall. I have already been out for a year and hate to waste anymore time. I plan to come to the transfer meeting Friday to discuss my options in more detail, but just wanted to see if you have any suggestions that I can be looking into until then. The changed deadline really messed up my plan for getting in for Spring after going to Athens Tech. Also, just out of curiosity, I was looking into taking classes at University of Phoenix. I assume you probably don't accept credits from there, but thought I would check and make sure. Thanks!

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  32. So in regards to the first part of your last post, are you saying I should have the work I've completed since I was rejected reviewed by a counselor before applying again?

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  33. Anon I: If your Athens Tech summer grades are being released on Sept. 1, then I would suggest you get a sealed copy and hand-deliver them as soon as you are able to, as we are slightly flexible on cases such as this. Look at this route first, then talk with the person leading the transfer information session about other options.

    Anon II (I am guessing that you are the same Anon as before, but it is helpful to actually give some form of name): No, I am saying that you should apply for Spring and wait for a decision before talking about appealing. If you are admissible, then appealing is a non-issue.

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  34. If I apply again for the Spring, after I didn't get in for the fall, do I have to send all my transcripts over again? Including the ones from schools that I have no work to be updated on?

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  35. Clayton: Generally, if a transfer student applies for a term immediately following their previous one, we will have all of the transcripts. You will need to give us a transcript with Spring and/or Summer classes and grades, but that is generally the only new transcripts we will need.

    As our imaging system moves forward, we will have more and more previous transcripts, but right now, if it is over a year old since it was sent (unless the above situation applies), it is good to have a new transcript sent to us.

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  36. I would like to graduate high school in December and begin UGA as a freshman. Are there equivalent odds of admission for spring apllicants

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  37. JZP: It is fine if you wish to apply for Spring, but I do not have any "odds", as you will be treated like any other freshman applicant and will be reviewed like we would review a Summer/Fall freshman applicant. The sample size is so small, though, that I cannot give any realistic data on this group.

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  38. What I meant when I stated "odds" was that I did not want to jeopardize my chance of acceptance by applying for freshman spring admission. I plan to double major and feel ready to begin. I have a 3.94 GPA with rigor and a 1950 on the SATs, but I have no idea of the acceptance/applicant ratio for freshman spring admission. I would like to know how many applications you receive and how many freshman are typically accepted.

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  39. Sorry Mr. Graves, I reread your response and realize you said it's such a small sample, but once I graduate, I can't reapply for the fall. My option is to do joint enrollment for the year, but I really am ready to begin :)

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  40. JZP: First, I would suggest that you speak to both your parents and your counselor about wanting to start in January, as I do not know all the details about your situation and would not be the best person to advise you. Second, dual enrollment at a local college is a good option for a number of students in your type of situation, so I would not discount it. As for Spring admission, the numbers are too small for students applying specifically for Spring to give you a good sense of what to expect. I would suggest looking at our academic statistics from last year (summer/fall) to get an idea of what we look for in a Spring applicant.

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  41. Mr. Graves..I really appreciate that you answer so quickly. My high school offers many AP classes. If I decide to do joint enrollment for the year rather than graduating in December and applying for spring enrollment, would this be viewed negatively by admission counselors since I do have the option at my school of AP? I just feel ready to move on and would like to have the flexibility of working and taking college courses, but again am afraid to do anything to risk my chances of being accepted.

    Joint enrollment not only gives me flexibility in my life (work & school) but would also enable me to get a greater head start since I plan to double major and get a masters in accounting before applying to law school.

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  42. JZP: Dual Enrollment is not looked at negatively by UGA, even with the option of AP/IB courses. We at times like to see a student remain a part of their HS programs, but it varies by student and by the reasons behind the choice. Remember that a review of a students rigor of curriculum is based upon what they take from 9-12 grades (honors, advanced, AP, IB, CP, Dual Enrollment, TAG, etc.), not just a few courses.

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  43. Mr graves, when will spring applications open?

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  44. Anon: The spring application is now up.

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  45. Mr. Graves,

    After having read several of your very helpful posts and responses on this blog, it seems like you are a very straight shooter, and right now that it exactly what I need.

    First, I attempted to apply to UGA in March as a regular transfer student for Fall 2010, but failed to meet the 30 transferable credits requirement at just 23 credits.

    I re-applied as a non-traditional student last week, and I spoke with a counselor earlier today, originally asking what else I needed to send to continue the applications process. He then informed me that non-traditional students must have less than 15 hours to be accepted, and that I am in a middle area where I have too many to be non-trad, but too few to be regular transfer. According to the Transfer Application Information page, this is not the case and non-trad just need less than 30. Which set of information is correct? I fit all of the requirements for non-trad (graduated '05, joined the Marines, got out six months ago) according to that info page. I am aware that a detailed letter and a high school transcript are required, again, as per the info page, but my application status check does not list either one of these items. I just need a solid, reliable checklist of stuff to send and where to send it to, or maybe even to whom.

    I can't express to you how much I want to go from Devil Dog to Bulldog, and just need some straight talk on what else I need to do. Thank you kindly for your time and any assistance you can offer.

    -Berry

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  46. Berry: I spoke with the counselor you were working with, and he was in error as to the 30 vs 15 hr balance (non-trads must have less than 30 transfer hours). Please remember that meeting the requirements to be considered a non-traditional student does not mean that you are admissible.

    For a non-trad student, we will be looking at the overall academic performance of the student, and what they have been doing since high school, both personally and academically. More importantly, we are also looking at how prepared a student is coming into the rigor of a UGA education. With a student that has been out of any formal education for a long period of time (4+ years), UGA is a tough jump after not being in a formal college classroom for a while.

    We will need the letter, HS transcript and a test score (SAT/ACT or the COMPASS exam. The status check would not show all of this due to us having a very limited number of non-trads and having to code them as freshman or transfers for our system, but you can contact us a week or two after sending them in to check and see if they have been received.

    I personally would suggest that you look at taking one term at a 2 year college (this fall?), so that you can have a period of transitioning back into college before attending a college like UGA. This looks good on a non-trad application, and it will help in the overall academic process.

    Good luck.

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  47. Thank you so much for such a quick response, Mr. Graves. I was hoping that this was the case, and I'm glad a second opinon was able to confirm this. I will be sending the letter and transcript this week, and scheduling a COMPASS test ASAP. Thank you again for all of your help.

    -Berry

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  48. Berry: Please note that I have suggested taking some college classes in the fall, and you would want to alert us if you will now be doing this.

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  49. Duly noted, Sir, and Mr. Clinton spoke to me this afternoon regarding this as well. It seems like this recommendation might be a small hint I should take, as it is beginning to sound like my case as a non-traditional student may be somewhat weak. As much as it pains me to put off trying to attend UGA, I am taking this advice very seriously. I am actually composing an email to Mr. Clinton as I am posting this message. Thanks again for everything.

    -Berry

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  50. Berry: Please understand that we are not judging your specific application, but trying to make suggestions to insure that if you do attend UGA, it will be a smooth transition (based upon working with a number of non-traditional students over the years).

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  51. I am planning to apply for spring admission because I am graduating from High School in December. Based on everything that you have said, it looks like the odds are stacked up against me. If I go ahead and apply for spring admission, is it possible for me to be wait-listed? and if so, does it mean that I have better chances of getting accepted next fall? Or should I just wait and apply for fall semester next year?

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  52. Anon: For Spring freshman decisions, we do not wait-list students. We either admit or deny the freshman applicants. I could not say which would be the better option, Spring or Fall, as I do not know what the applicant pool will be like, and I do not know your situation. It may be best that if you apply for Spring, you will know something earlier (since you are graduating in Dec.), and you can then either go forward with enrolling at UGA if admitted, or attend another college if denied (and look at possible transfer options in the future).

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  53. Hi there! I am a prospective transfer student for Spr 2011, and have recently submitted my application. I am about to order my transcript from my current university. What address do I send this transcript to? Just want to make sure it goes to the right place!
    Also, where do I write my full name/SSN? It said to include this info but I don't want to open the sealed transcript or put it on the outside. Is it safe to assume my transcript will already have this info on it?
    Thanks for your help!!

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  54. SRL: You would send it to UGA Admissions, Terrell Hall. Your name will be on the transcript (no idea about the SSN), and it will be matched up with your application. You can verify this by the status check.

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  55. Great, thanks!
    One more question: I was admitted to UGA as a freshman applicant, but chose to go elsewhere. It is very likely that I will not transfer to UGA even if I am accepted for Spr '11. If I applied once again to transfer at a later date, would the fact that I had cancelled my acceptance twice before make it more likely that I will not be admitted for the third time? I don't want to cut my chances by applying and deciding not to attend after I am accepted.
    Again, thanks for your help! More schools should do blogs like this!

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  56. SRL: If you decided not to attend UGA at an earlier date, this will not have an impact on future admission decisions.

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  57. I have a 4.1 GPA and a 1750 in the SAT. Does that make me a strong candidate for UGA spring admission?

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  58. Anon: I would say that you would be competitive. I would also want you to look at your transcript, as I am guessing the 4.1 GPA is coming off your transcript, and is not how we would calculate a GPA. I could be wrong, but generally when I get a student stating a generic GPA, it is off their HS transcript.

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