Thursday, February 18, 2010

Summer and Fall Transfer Decisions

As our review of the freshman transcripts (just the transcripts, not the entire file!) comes to an end, we are now starting up our transfer reviews. The transfer decision process is very different from the freshman process, so please take note. While the freshman decisions go out at three times during the year (December, late February and late March), the transfer decisions go out beginning in February and ending in late May/early June, and are made on a daily basis. In fact, we made about 30 transfer decisions yesterday!

Just so you know, though, transfer decisions are not a quick process. First, the file has to have all transcripts from any and all colleges an applicant has attended, and we must have any completed work through the Fall term of the previous year (so for this year, it would be Fall 2009 work). We then have to review the transcripts, see what classes transfer in, determine the number of transferable hours, and calculate a transfer GPA. If we then admit a student, we must plug in exactly how the transferable courses come into UGA, and whether they match specific UGA courses or come in as elective work. In addition, we must plug in the hours and GPA for HOPE scholarship purposes for those applicants that fall into this situation, and make sure that everything is correct. In other words, it can take a while.

In addition, the speed of the review depends upon the colleges an applicant has attended. If we have a large database of knowledge about a college and the courses from there (for instance GA State Univ.), then almost all of the equivalent courses are already in our database. But if you have attended several colleges where we have almost no information on (for instance, Green River CC and Central Washington Univ.), then it will take a while to research your classes and determine how the courses translate over to UGA courses.

As you can guess, this means that I have no idea how many transfer applicants we can review a day, and how many decisions will go out on X date. As well, I cannot even begin to guess, beyond a rough monthly estimate, when you will receive a transfer decision. What I would suggest is that you should make sure that all transcripts are here through the status check system, that if you have any other names you have used (last name is Jones now but was Smith), you should contact us to let us know after the transcript is sent, and be patient. Remember, transfer decisions will both come in the mail and will be posted on the status check.

I hope this helps!

Go Dawgs!

181 comments:

  1. Great Blog, very informative of the whole process. Thanks so much!

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  2. If a student transfers from another state university that has granted course credit based on CLEP scores, will UGA accept those credits as well? Thanks.

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  3. Anon: If the CLEP scores show an exact class (example is POL SCI 1101) as the credit on an official transcript, and this class then is transferable to UGA, then yes, we will accept it. In addition, if a college gives a student specific college course credit for AP/IB exams, we would then accept the credit.

    The problem comes when a college puts something like "12 hours of advanced credit" but does not give specific classes for the credit. We can only transfer course credit that is assigned a specific college course, with the accompanying course number and credit hours. Remember, it has come to us on an official, sealed transcript. No faxes, post-it notes, or letters from the professor.

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  4. So if it there is nothing on the status check at 8 am, then there won't be a change until the next day?

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  5. Anon: About 99% of the time, if there is nothing on the status check in the early morning (I think it updates somewhere between 2-4 a.m., but I am not sure), then there will not be a change until the next day. The only days where this is not the case are on the three big decision release dates for freshman, and right around the freshman deadline dates of 10/15 and 1/15.

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  6. The status check states that I have put in to wrong Login name/password so I reset password and it still won't let me log in. Is it possibly updating?

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  7. Anon: I could not tell you the answer to this, both because I do not have access to the back end technical side, and because I have no information about you and your situation. What you probably want to do is be patient if you just reset the password, and if you are still having problems, click on the link "Need Help?" in the upper right hand corner of the Status Check screen.

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  8. As I send my transcripts in should I attach my SAT scores? I'm a transfer student with 60+ semester hours.

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  9. Anon: When you say attach, I am not sure what you mean. If you mean that the SAT scores will be on your transcript, then no, as these are not official. If you mean send them in from the testing agency, then you can go ahead, but it will not have a factor in the admission decision. The only thing it may have an impact on later would be for any state testing (Regents exam) exemption, unless your intended major or some other group needs the scores for some reason I am not aware of.

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  10. "As our review of the freshman transcripts (just the transcripts, not the entire file!) comes to an end, we are now starting up our transfer reviews."

    When will you begin looking at SAT/ACT scores?

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  11. Leigh Ann: I think I was not clear enough in my post. When we review freshman files, the initial step is to look at the transcript, review the academic grades, and re-calculate a GPA based on UGA standards. After that, we are then able to review the files on a more comprehensive basis, and this is when we have the ability to look at the other factors (test scores, essays, recommendations, etc.). We started reviewing high school transcripts in September, and we are now at the end of that process. When the transcript review is done (from Sept to Feb) we can then move forward, so we have been looking at the overall files since October.

    In case you are asking from a transfer point of view, we do not look at SAT/ACT scores for transfer applicants.

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  12. I am attending Dalton State College and it is in the University System of Georgia. I have about 40 hours and a 3.41 gpa. Once my transfer gpa is calculated, how much different will it be from what appears on my transcript? And is the newly calculated transfer gpa used for admission or the one on the transcript?

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  13. KatieC: When the transfer GPA is calculated, it generally is very similar to the one on the transcript, but occasionally there are classes that either do not transfer in or that the grade is looked at differently from your home institution. Two good examples would be a PE class like golf, where we would not use the grade but the home institution would, or a repeated class, where we would use both grades, but the home institution might only use the highest grade. In addition, some colleges have forgiveness policies where they will waive 1-3 grades, but that only applies to the home institution, not UGA.

    When we look at a student for transfer admission, we use the GPA we calculate. For a good understanding of this, please look at our transfer web site at http://www.admissions.uga.edu/article/admission_information_for_transfer_students.html, and our transfer equivalency site at http://www.admissions.uga.edu/apps/transferequiv/

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  14. So does this mean that specific home institution courses such as GMC 154 for Georiga Military College would not transfer because on the Equivalency website is misleading in stating that any GMC***=NTFR01**, but up below it shows GMC154=PHIL1T**. Would this class would be used in my GPA calculation? If there is some sort of error will you please decide to take it out of any calculations for a transfer applicant from GMC. Because if this class does count it brings my GPA to a 3.18 which only having 57 semester hours is a problem.

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  15. Why would you not use PEDB classes when calculating GPA? Being that golf is offered at UGA and the home institution. I have a Beginning Badminton course from my home institution and UGA also has Beginning Badminton but it would still not transfer correct?

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  16. Anon I: I will check on this on Monday, but my guess is that this means that any GA Military courses under the course listing of GMC*** other than the two specifically listed as transferable will not transfer into UGA. Again, I will check on it, but I believe this is the situation, so I think you should be okay.

    Anon II: I would suggest you re-read the two admission sites I gave you. There are certain classes that do not transfer, but there are also certain classes that transfer but the GPA will not be used for transfer GPA purposes. As stated on the transfer site under courses not used for GPA, "Some Physical Activities courses (1 semester hour may be used for class standing purposes)". Since UGA has a one hour requirement for a PE course, this is why we use 1 hour for transfer standing. But at the same time, the faculty does not want an applicant to try and game the system by taking a large number of PE courses just to boost a GPA.

    I hope these answers help.

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  17. If I am denied for the Summer Semester, can a reapply for the Fall Semester and re-do the process?

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  18. From one of the above post Anonymous posted a GPA of 3.18 for a transfer with 57 semester hours. Do you think a transfer applicant with 59 semester hours and with a GPA of 3.18 possibly be considered?

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  19. cont. Because being so impulsive I applied without actually doing the conversion for myself to actually get a good estimate GPA and transferable course, and have only just know realized it I only had 59 hours.

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  20. Anon I: Generally, there is no new information that you would be able to get to us by the April 1 Fall transfer deadline that would be different from the March 1 summer deadline, so the decisions would be the same. Thus, it would not make sense to consider you for the Fall term.

    Anon II: First, UGA would have to determine what your GPA and transferable hours were, and if they met the criteria we look for. If a student did have a 3.18 and 59 hours, they would not meet our requirements, thus they would be denied. They might (and I say might!) have a case for appealing, but it depends on their whole situation.

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  21. Well my Winter quarter ends in the middle of March so I would have 16 more transferable quarter credtis. Would this make a difference?

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  22. Anon: Yes it would, if you can get the transcript to us in time (and why I prefaced the comment with generally, as there are now only a few colleges on the quarter system). Check with your college's registrar to see if they can get an official transcript to us by the April 1 deadline.

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  23. Ok thanks! Would I re-apply or just send in an updated transcript?

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  24. Anon: If you want to come summer, then leave your application as summer, and if denied, call our office about possibly changing it to fall. If you really just want fall, but applied summer for another reason (some do it to hear a little earlier, some mistakenly think it is easier to be admitted summer, etc.), then contact us now to change to fall, and then get us the updated transcript.

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  25. Do you know what day in February they are planning on letting freshman know about decisions? Also, who will all find out this day? People who meet early criteria?

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  26. Anon: Here is a quote from a comment I posted on Friday about freshman admission and February; "Anon: As you might have seen from previous posts right around EA decisions, I never give out an exact date, as things change at times, and I would not want anyone to be upset if I said a specific date and it somehow changed due to some issue.

    What I will do is post information on this blog the day that decisions are to go out, and I am still expecting the second wave of decisions to go out before the end of February."

    I hope this helps.

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  27. DGraves:
    when you say that usually the only way deferred early applicants hear back in February is if their scores are improved, by how much do they have to improve give or take? I was not able to send in my fall semester grades as they are only .5 credits because of the IB Prigram block scheduling. However, i took my SAT again but to much dismay I only improved my Reading by 10 points, making my new combined SAT math/reading score a 1110... My common sense tells me this is not enough improvement, yet Icannot help but ask: Is this enough to "improve"? If not, how does UGA decide what meets te EA criteria. I was told that UGA uses a certain formula to reach a number which is the cutoff point for EA.

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  28. How can I calculate my transferrable GPA just to make sure I will meet the required 3.2 GPA for admission? I have a 3.5, but I also attend a private institution in GA. I don't want to bother applying if I know my GPA will not be high enough.

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  29. April: First of all, I could not tell you what or how much improvement could have an impact on the decision, as it is not an easy, plug in the numbers situation. We look at a wide variety of things (grades, overall rigor, D/F grades, the test scores borken down into the different sections, discipline records, etc) during EA, so no, it is not a simple situation. The best thing I can say is to be patient and wait, and you will hear one way or another soon.

    Anon: First, look at the transfer website to see what we look at when calculating a transfer GPA. Second, look at the transfer equiv. site to see what transfers in. Then, multiply the grade you have for each course (A=4, B=3, etc.) by the class hours, and add this up for your total "quality points" (this is what most colleges call it). For instance, if you had 2 classes, an A in a 4 hour calc class and a B in a 3 hour psych class, this would be 4X4 (16) plus 3X3 (9), which is 25 quality points.

    Then divide the quality points by the hours (25/7), and you have your GPA (3.57)! This will be roughly what your GPA is, as I can not say exactly how your courses come in, but you can see this on the transfer equiv. site.

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  30. have any fall transfers decisions been made or are you still working on the summer applicants? thanks!

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  31. Anon: Most of the transfer decisions we have made so far have been summer, but a few of the decisions have been for fall term (not many though).

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  32. I have been admitted for summer semester. I was reading over the information that was mailed to me and it says that being admitted as a summer transfer does not mean that I am admitted for the fall as well. Does this mean that I have to go through the application/admissions process again? If I had known this I would have just applied for the fall.

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  33. D Graves,

    Is there any order you go through the applications? Such as alphabetically, or the order in which they were received?

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  34. Ben: If you are admitted for summer, then you can start in summer and continue on for fall, spring, etc. (although at some point we do want you to graduate!). What the phrase means is that if you are admitted for a term and do not attend that term, your admission offer does not continue to other terms. We do not want applicants to apply for spring, not attend, and then show up in August for Fall classes. There might be different criteria in future terms, the student's grades might have dropped, etc.

    Anon: For the most part, it is by when a student has completed their application. Occasionally, we work with a department on a few of their students, or for summer, we at times have to run an alpha. list due to working with a new system and a small group (summer is always a smaller applicant pool). But for the most part, it is in order of the date a file is complete.

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  35. If a student is not going to be accepted, will they be notified as soon as this decision is made? Or is it possible that an applicant can be rejected and not know until much later in the process?

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  36. Anon: Unless there is something odd about the situation, we will notify transfer applicants, either as admits or denies, when we have reviewed the file and the decision is made.

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  37. Hi. I have applied for Summer 2010 semester, and am still waiting on an answer. Right now, I have a 4.0 GPA from Athens Tech; previously (9 years ago) I attended Tallahassee CC in Florida and was more focused on my social life (my GPA was a 2.something) than my grades. I think I have obviously proved myself as a serious student now, and don't want to be penalized for being stupid earlier in my life. You have received both of my transcripts; will you focus more on what I am doing now, or what I have done in the past (as an immature 18 year old)?

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  38. If accepted as a transfer (sophomore), and I reach over 60 hours by the end of the semester Do I need to turn in that transcript as well?

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  39. When will Summer applicants hear a decision? Will you still be looking at Summer applications through March?

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  40. If I contacted the Office of Admission and asked for them to hold off on veiwing my application until I could send in updated transcript before the deadline? I have already asked for it to be changed from Summer Semester to Fall.

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  41. Anon: When we do our review, we are going to be looking at your overall academic situation, and not treating your more recent work any different than the work 9 years ago. If denied, though, you may choose to appeal a denial, as you seem to have a legitimate reason for appeal (versus the appeals that say "I just really want to go to UGA!").

    Zack: If you are admitted to UGA, and then complete additional college work, we will need that transcript, both for admission review and for the posting of work towards a UGA degree (and HOPE is applicable).

    Anon: We are reviewing summer applicants now, so it depends upon when you completed your application and when we get to your file. Generally, though, I expect most summer transfer decisions to be completed by the end of March if not sooner.

    Anon: I am not quite sure of your question, but hopefully since you contacted us about changing from summer to fall, and by getting in new work by the fall April 1 deadline, you should be fine. In addition, if we denied you, and then new work came in by the deadline, we would review your file again.

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  42. If you feel like you have a legitimate reason, can you appeal a denial?

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  43. Anon: Yes, if you feel like you have a legitimate reason, then you can appeal. Whether a denial decision is overturned, though, depends upon how UGA reviews the appeal. For freshman applicants, we generally have seen everything about a person, so there is usually not a good chance when appealing.

    For transfers, since we are focused on transfer grades and hours, there may be other issues that we do not look at. Things such as a big gap in college work, where there were poor grades a number of years ago, and now strong grades, personal issues such as medical or family situations, one rough term compared to several very strong other terms, etc.

    We could not guess on the chances of appeals, though, as it is looked at by our office, a faculty group, and the president's office.

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  44. Have you ever denied a transfer student with a 4.0 GPA?

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  45. Anon: Yes, we have denied transfer students who have a 4.00 GPA before. Here are a few reasons why this may be the case:

    The student does not have 30+ tranferrable hours
    The student is on probation from the previous college.
    The student has a serious (and I mean serious!) conduct issue.
    The student attended a non-accredited institution.

    There are more, but these are a few reasons why this might happen.

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  46. Because I will not have 30 hours until May, i have to apply for Spring 2011. When will this application be available? I was trying to apply but only fall and summer 2010 are available.

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  47. Brad: I expect that the spring transfer application will be up in early summer. We need to have a window of time just to focus on summer and fall transfers right now before opening up the application for spring. In addition, we will generally not start any spring decisions until at least August, so there is no major rush needed.

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  48. If someone is trying to transfer to UGA in the fall and they have had problems and have been written up at their current college and and have been suspended for the summer there how do these types of things affect transferring here?

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  49. mgshea: Yes, this may cause you a problem, especially if this is an academic suspension. We are not allowed to accept a transfer student who is currently on an academic suspension. If it is a discipline suspension, then we will have to review the severity of the issue.

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  50. Can you comment on the number of Summer transfer applicants that have been denied?

    Also, what sort of implications do the budget cuts have on the actual application process? Will there be less staff to review applicants due to decrease in pay and in return more restrictions on criteria needed to meet UGA qualifications?

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  51. About how many summer transfers are left to review?

    Also, do having W's (Withdraws) on one's transcript count against them, and what if the applicant changed their major after they submitted their application, will that count against them? Thank you for answering these questions, I understand you are all very busy and appreciate it.

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  52. Would a first offender on a criminal record greatly effect a transfer applicants chances of getting in Fall 2010? Assuming that all other transfer requirements are met.

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  53. Anon: There have not been a large number of transfer denies, and they have not met the set criteria for admission consideration. As for budget cuts, the ones that are on the table now have not been set yet, so we will not know until later this year. As for previous budget cuts, they have impacted the speed in which we are able to make decisions, but have not changed how we review files.

    Anon II: We just hit the deadline, so I do not have an exact number, but I would guess that about 350 or so summer transfer applicants still need to hear a decision (depending on how many actually get us the required transcripts). W grades do not have a negative impact on admission decisions, unless they are WF grades, and the major will not have an impact.

    Anon III: A first offender criminal act may or may not have an impact, depending on the criminal act, when it occurred, etc. So we would not know until we reviewed the situation.

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  54. Will the proposed budget cuts, which include a decrease of 1000 transfer students to UGA, affect the transfer application process in any way? Will there become a point where you all will have to stop looking at applications altogether, regardless of GPA?

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  55. Is the early May to early July time frame accurate as far as Fall 2010 decisions going out? I was hoping to find out before I have to make my class schedule for the Fall semester at my current college in case I don't get accepted to UGA.

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  56. Anon: I really cannot answer much about the proposed budget cut issues, since nothing specific has been decided. When that occurs, we will then know more.

    Anon II: Please review the post again, as I said that transfer decisions would go out between Feb and late May/early June. Therefore, late May/early June would be when the last of the fall decisions look like they will be sent out (although remember, this is just a rough estimate).

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  57. During my senior year, I sent all the necessary documents and info required for fresman applications. However, my application did not get reviewed due to payment issues. I will admit that this was partly due to my error. I assumed that as long as I made the payment within the week, my application will still be valid for review. Since my parents was away, I waited for their return. But by then, my application was denied. And the person I emailed already said I should just wait for the following year to reapply. I worked full time in the summer. During the fall, I took the time to look for aternatives. I decided to apply to Georgia state and just transfer. I enrolled for the spring semester this year and planning to take summer to meet requirements. But time is always that determinging factor which I can't get past. My greatest fear is the fact that all my efforts will be wasted. Are there alternatives for students like me to be admitted during the fall? At this point in time, I am passing all my classes. They are transferable. I am a full-time student. Transportation and finances are not an issues for me.

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  58. Jennie: We actually allow for application payments well after the deadline, so there must have been another issue (such as not submitting the application due to not selecting a payment option needed to push the app through).

    As for the timeline and requirements for transfer students, they are set. You must have 30+ hours of transfer work completed by the deadline, and we must have all required documents by the deadline. The deadlines are set to allow both the applicants and UGA to make decisions in an early enough timeline to allow students to make appropriate college plans. If we were to wait until the end of summer term (or even spring term) to take in materials for fall, we would not be releasing decisions until June, July and August.

    My suggestion is to do well at Ga State, and look at the timeline for when you will have enough hours to transfer, and then apply for that future term. It may not be the exact timeline you want, but if your ultimate goal is to graduate from UGA, then that is the best plan of action.

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  59. I applied to Georgia as a transfer student and I was wondering if it was possible to send in my SAT and ACT scores for extra consideration for scholarships/financial aid since I am out of state? Thank you so much for the help!

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  60. Anon: At this time, the only transfer scholarships are generally through the individual academic departments, and they usually would not look at SAT/ACT scores. You can go ahead and send them, but I do not believe it would have an impact.

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  61. If you are a transfer student and get accepted into a specific program before getting accepted into UGA, does this help your chances of getting admitted? Thanks!

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  62. Anon: No, getting admitted to a specific program (such as music, art, etc.) has no bearing on your admission to UGA. While they may be looking at specific talents, ours is looking at you as an overall academic student, and how you have done in college previously.

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  63. if the person was suspended for the summer semester but id applying for fall 2010 will that be a problem? also if the person was kicked out of on campus housing how does that affect transferring (im assuming that it depends on the circumstances)

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  64. Also, if someone already finished their application when is the soonest they could find out? and when is most likely? THANKS!

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  65. mgshea: Yes, this could be a problem, depending on what has occurred. But I could not say without more information, and this blog is not the right way to communicate this situation. I would suggest that in early April, you should contact our office to talk about your file, and be very clear and open about what has occurred. As for a timeline, please review this post and the comments for more details on the timeline and out current issues with transfer decisions.

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  66. if the applicant was very clear about what happened on the application should they still call in april?

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  67. My current institution did not accept threes on two of my ap exams (US and Comparative government), however the UGA websites said they would accept them. I have enough credits to transfer without these courses , however if I am admitted can I still get exempt from them?

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  68. mgshea: My suggestion is to call just to make sure both you and admissions understand the issue.

    Anon: It may be possible, depending upon the scores and what courses you have already taken (i.e. does any of your transfer work overlap with what the UGA website says you will get credit for)? If you are admitted, make sure to have your AP exams sent to UGA, and we can then move forward.

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  69. I am a summer transfer applicant and all my files were received about a month ago. do you think i will find out soon? i am just curious because i need to make living arrangements and such in athens.

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  70. In regards to the budget issue, would it be a mistake to not wait on the final decision and go with my 2nd choice school, which I've already been accepted to? I'm a transfer student and I'm a little scared to wait too late because of housing. What would you suggest? I would LOVE to come to UGA, but I'm scared this budget issue will force me to wait too long to recieve housing.

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  71. Anon and Layla: I can't tell you when, as UGA (and the students) are the ones waiting for things to get resolved. As of right now, we just have to all wait and see. As far as housing options, I am guessing that transfer students may have a little more option of on-campus living due to a new residence hall opening, and this will also open up some off-campus apartments as well since it is adding a large new living area in Athens. See www.uga.edu/housing for more details on the new residence hall!

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  72. I have applied to transfer to UGA, and I have been reading this blog to keep up to date on any transfer news. I am confused on the budget cut situation, is UGA post-poning decisions until the budget cut issues are resolved? Or is UGA going to continue to accept transfer students?

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  73. So with the budget cuts and all, what are the chances of someone with 32 transferable hours with a 3.58 from KSU have of getting in for the fall term?

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  74. Would an "Intro to College" 1 hour credit be considered transferable?

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  75. Anon I: At this time, transfer admit decisions are being delayed until we know more about the budget issues. We expect we will know something soon, but the budget issue is in the hands of the state legislature.

    Anon II: I do not guess on any decisions, so sorry, but I will not start here. Just be patient and hopefully this will be taken care of soon.

    Anon III: The UGA Transfer Equivalency site would be the best location for you to look (see the left hand menu at ww.admissions.uga.edu). It is a database that shows all courses, how they transfer, etc. Just make sure to read the instructions first for an explanation of the what you will be seeing on the UGA side.

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  76. I just wanted to say thanks for the updates you make on this. I'm currently waiting on a decision but I realize that you have no power over budget proposal and are doing your best to respond to questions. It's really frustrating to wait, but most of us will get over it.

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  77. when someone calls to clarify about their application who should they call? and who should they ask to speak to?
    thanks!

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  78. So in all likelihood it could be the end of April before fall transfers know anything about the admission decisions...?

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  79. Anon: Thanks for your comment.

    mgshea: You would ask to speak to a counselor, but I would suggest not calling until the second week of April, as we are in file reading time right now, and in early April, we will be taking a large number of calls from freshman about their decisions.

    Anon II: If you look at the original post, you will see that I talked about timelines, and that decisions will be going out for transfers from Feb. through late May. If the deadline for Fall is April 1, and we have (I am guessing ) 2,500 transfer applicants for fall, then it will take a long time to get through these applications.

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  80. should i just call the admissions office?

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  81. mgshea: Yes, you would call admissions.

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  82. When do transfer students who apply for summer admission find out if they were accepted?

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  83. Anon: Please carefully review this post, along with the comments, and you will get a handle on our timeline, as well as the slight delay due to state budget issues.

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  84. Do you know about how many transfer students are admitted with 4.0s? Thank you!

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  85. Anon: No, I do not have that information on hand, and I am not sure if you mean last year, or so far this year (where we have only a small number of admitted transfers so far).

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  86. My daughter has applied for a Fall Transfer from Georgia Southern. Of course, we are waiting for notification patiently. My question is: she currently has the Georgia Hope, do we need to reapply for the Ga. Hope (only) if she is admitted to UGA or with it follow her to UGA??

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  87. I am sorry I did not clarify, I meant the transfer students last year with 4.0s.

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  88. Anon: Since the HOPE regulations seem to change from year to year, I would suggest that you speak to a HOPE counselor in our Student Financial Aid office for more information.

    Anon II: I may be able to research this at a later date, but life is a little too hectic right now to do this analysis.

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  89. I am currently on the UGA Transfer Equivalency website to see which of my courses will transfer. Are the credit hours that will be received also posted on there? I can't find them. Reason for this question is that I am coming from a private institution in GA, and I am wondering if my hours (e.g. 32) will be counted just the same, or whether UGA will weigh some of my classes differently. I hope I can find this out soon, so I can determine if I need to take a summer course.

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  90. Rosie: Generally, we transfer in coursework with the hours matching up (unless you attend a college that has an unusual system such as each class is 1 unit, etc., or if it is a quarter system and we must translate the hours). You can also look at the UGA bulletin to see the hours in each UGA class if that would make you feel more at ease.

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  91. Hi. I have just received word that I was not accepted to Summer 2010 quarter. I am distraught because I have worked SO hard to get my grades up from 9 years ago...when I didn't care. I have a 4.0 at Athens Tech (& have taken 12 classes). Everything should have transferred, and I am just confused. You said something about appealing decisions in my previous blog. How do I receive appeals information, and is it even worth it? This decision is life changing for me, and I would like to understand more about appealing. Thank you.

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  92. Anon: As I have said before, transfer admission is very direct, as we look at your overall grades and your overall hours. But in your case (and most people do not fall into this situation), I would suggest you contact our office and request an appeals form. You will then be able to tell us more about the extenuating circumstances and UGA will be able to review the overall situation. As for the transferring of classes, I could not tell you exact details, as I do not have your information on hand. Remember, we have a transfer information session every Friday afternoon that you can attend to learn more about transfer issues.

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  93. Should I stop checking the status check every day now that it says wait until late march? I'm a transfer applying for summer.

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  94. Anon: The status check will re-open when final freshman decisions are released, and that will be by the end of March. I do not have any new information about transfers at this time.

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  95. If transfer decisions are usually released by the end of March or early April, is it possible that those decisions will be released around the same time as the freshman? I read on the admission's website that orientation information will be released in April, especially for those maymester and summer applicants. Is there a chance to know something by then?

    Thanks for being patient and taking the time out in answering all our questions!! :-)

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  96. Anon: At this time, we do not have the needed information from the state government on the budget issue to move forward with transfer decisions. We hope to have something shortly.

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  97. OK, so from what I have read,the reason why UGA has to cut transfer admissions is because if the budget cuts occur they will have to lay-off teachers. Therefore,transfer admission will be cut because there will not be as many class spaces. If this is the case wouldn't someone who has been accepted into a specific program and is a highly competitive applicant not have to worry about the cuts? It just doesn't make any sense for UGA to deny someone if they have classes that will be available to them. Thanks for answering all our questions!

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  98. would that mean everyone who applied for transfer admissions for summer or fall will not be accepted or just for summer?

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  99. Anon I: We do not know what will happen as far as budget cuts, so we do not know what will happen within specific programs, or with any cuts that are campus wide. As such, if you were admitted to a specific program (I am guessing by that program such as music, etc?), you would still need to be admitted to the University, and neither you or I know yet what that program's budget will be like. As such, we have to wait a little while longer to know what will happen with transfers.

    Anon II: We do not know what we will be able to do with summer or fall transfers until we know more about the budget, so we do not know. I cannot say it any clearer, we will not know what we will be able to do until we know more about the budget. No amount of comments asking about it will change this fact. Sorry.

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  100. Hi!

    I know this is a thread on Summer/Fall applicants but I was wondering if I can get some input on Spring applicants.

    I am planning on applying to UGA Spring'11 as a junior transfer.

    How competitive will an applicant be, if he/she meets the requirements (60+ credit hours and a GPA between 2.8 - 3.1)?

    Thanks a lot!

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  101. Anon: We still do not know what will be happening for summer or fall, so Spring is not even on our radar right now. I will post information here when I know more.

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  102. Would attending a respected private school out of state and earning a lower GPA be taken into consideration when compared with attending a public school in Georgia and earning a 3.7 for example?

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  103. Is it rare for an instate student with a 2.8 and 60 credits (requirements) to get accepted? Do instate students have a better chance than out of staters like schools in California?

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  104. Jon: No, we treat all colleges the same, especially since UGA is part of the 35 institution University system.

    Anon: In-state and out-of-state applicants are treated the same, and I could not say what will happen with any transfer decision until I know more about the state budget issues.

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  105. Is UGA considering the possibility of not taking ANY transfer students this summer or fall?

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  106. Anon: I have not seen this topic (not admitting any transfers) brought up at all, so I do not see it as a possibility. We just want to make sure we know what we are able to do before we actually do it.

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  107. How is a student attempting to transfer in as a sophomore supposed to have 30 hours completed by the deadline? It would seem like most incoming sophomores would not have 30 hours until the semester ended, which is a month after the deadline.

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  108. How is a student who is attempting to transfer in as a sophomore supposed to have 30 hours completed by the deadline? It would seem like the majority of such students would need the second semester of their freshman year to earn the rest of their 30 hours, which is a month after the deadline.

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  109. Anon/David: If an applicant is not able to meet the specifics for consideration, they would look at future terms in which they might meet them. In this case, the student would apply for Spring term or beyond. We have a large number of applicants who apply for spring term. Because of the large number of transfer applicants, we have to set certain timelines to make sure we are able to give students enough lead time to make a good college choice. If we pushed the deadline to June or July, we would not be able to get out decisions in enough time for either our office or the applicants.

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  110. Is there some kind of website where we can go to to read updates on the state budget cut situation? Its already late march and the status check has not re-opened. Im sorry if i sound redundant..

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  111. frank the tank: You would need to contact your state representative's office to get an understanding of what the budget situation is looking like, as we are at the mercy of the state government.

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  112. Do you wait until the end of the day on a Friday so any of us that didn't get in wouldn't be able to contact your office until after the weekend?

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  113. Anon: I answered this in another comment, so I am going to cut and paste. "We generally notify people on a Friday so students and parents will have the weekend to digest the information and, if angry, cool off before writing or saying something that they then wish they had left unsaid."

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  114. How does the appeal process work?

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  115. Anon: The first thing you should know about the appeals process is that it is not a quick process. We have about 7-8 appeals meetings, where the files of students who are appealing are brought before a faculty group. The faculty group then makes a recommendation to the President's office, who will make the final decision.

    Second, a student should only appeal if there are significant issues that were not seen in the application. A good example would be a transfer student that struggled a number of years ago in college but is now doing very well upon their return to college work. While UGA would look at the overall grades and hours for a decision, we would not look at this issue.

    A not so good one would be a freshman who went through the holistic review process, where everything within the file was reviewed. Generally, nothing additional could then be offered up for review by UGA. As well, just saying "but I really want to go to UGA" is not a good appeal, as generally, most applicants feel this way.

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  116. I get that you all are holding out on admitting transfer students at this time, but I read that you are still reviewing applications. My question is if a student didn't meet the requirements anyway would you go ahead and deny them or wait until all decisions are made

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  117. Anon: I think I have written this before, but I will say it again. If we are reviewing a transfer file and they do not meet the consideration requirements, we would then deny the student. It is the acceptance decisions that we have to hold off on.

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  118. I know the budget issues are still ongoing, but do you think that after the April 1 deadline you will begin to admit some of the transfer students?

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  119. Is there a deadline for the State Legislature to formulate a Budget? It is becoming really frustrating as a Summer Applicant because I have other University offers on hold whilst I await Georgia's decision.

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  120. At this time, we do not know when the state government will determine our budget, but I am guessing we will move forward with some decisions shortly, and I will let you know when we know something.

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  121. Dgraves thanks so far for everything but since freshman got their decisions today that leaves us transfers that have been waiting since December for decisions in a nervous wreck .Can u do a blog just for us soon ?thanks

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  122. Anon: As I said, I will let you know when things will go forward with transfers, and I will write a new post just for this issue.

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  123. as far as transfers are concerned, is getting in the Japanese Language & Literature major very competitive at this time? I'm really looking forward to getting accepted for it this Fall.. thanks DGraves ;)

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  124. DGraves, Have all the transfer admissions been halted or have they just been slowed down because of the budget issue? Thank you.

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  125. Anon: It is no more difficult to be admitted to the Japanese Lang & Lit. program than any other program (knowing that some colleges, such as Business and Journalism, do not admit straight to their major).

    Anon II: Any admit decisions have been halted, but denies have continued to go out if a student does not meet the criteria for consideration. We expect to know something shortly about transfers.

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  126. DGraves,

    I am a freshman student at North Georgia College and State University and will have completed 30 hours at the end of this semester. Since the earliest I will be able to transfer is Spring 2011, that is when I am planning to apply. I looked at the Transfer Equivalency and all my classes seem to transfer. I just want to be sure that if the transfer equivalency page says all my courses will transfer, that actually all of them will. I just don't want to find out later that one class did not and because of that I'm 3 hours short or something like that. Also, are the difficulty of classes looked at in determining whether a student gets accepted or not?

    Thanks,

    Chase S.

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  127. Chase: The transfer equivalency database comes straight from UGA's main registration and admissions mainframe system, so it is very accurate. The only time there would be any problem (which rarely happens!) is if either UGA or the transfer college makes serious changes to the course, thus changing how something would come in. That rarely happens, and if it is an academic course, it would then go from a specific course to an elective course. In other words, the Transfer Equivalency is very accurate.

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  128. Are their certain classes that needs to be taken before transferring? My advisor said that I should have Calculus I and English 1/2.

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  129. Anon: No, we do not require any specific classes in order to transfer into UGA.

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  130. DGraves

    Thank you very much for the response! Also, do the difficulty of your classes effect a decision one way or the other? I have had a couple of easy classes this year like Career Planning, but considering I'm undecided I wanted to take that class to learn about all of the careers out there. I didn't just take it for an easy grade.

    Chase

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  131. Chase: No, we are looking at your grades and your transferable coursework/hours. We are not judging the difficulty of your transfer classes.

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  132. I was just wondering how competitive it is to get into Franklin College of Arts and Sciences for Fall 2010?

    I understand you do not know how it will be affected by the budget cut.

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  133. Anon: Seriously, I do not know what will happen right now with transfer admissions, and any admission as a transfer, be it to Franklin or any other college, is impacted the same right now. Just be patient.

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  134. Sorry,I was not trying to address the current issue with the budget cut.
    I know that it is more difficult/ impossible to get in the business school as a transfer student, and was just making sure Franklin was not the same way.

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  135. Anon: Actually, it is not more difficult/impossible to be admitted to Terry as a transfer student. It depends upon your choice of major, and it is competitive for both UGA students and incoming students to be admitted to some "high demand" majors (Education, Business, Journalism, etc.). Some majors in Franklin are high demand, while others are not. It just depends on the specific major and the other students who want to go into that program.

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  136. DGraves,

    Thanks so much for replying to my posts. I just have a couple of more questions. When does the application for transfer students for Spring normally open up? I know the deadline is sometime in September, but I was wondering how early it opened. Also, I noticed on some of the majors they say to transfer in as a third-year student you must have certain classes completed or in progress, but if I am wanting to transfer in as a Sophomore with around 30 hours, do I still have to have those classes done? Thanks so much!

    Chase

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  137. Is the summer semester class full or are you still looking at transfer applicants? Is it a bad sign if you haven't gotten a decision yet?

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  138. Chase: I am guessing the spring application will open up in mid-summer. As for the majors, that is not to enter UGA, but to go into a selective major (UGA students also have to apply for these majors).

    Anon: I hope that we will be able to let you know about summer transfers shortly.

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  139. Hello, I am a transfer applying for the Fall term....I keep thinking an answer to the budget situation is around the corner and have halted plans to find a living situation for next year (if I do not get in) week after week. Do you honestly think the answer will come shortly? 1-2 weeks? I have heard the rumors of 6-8+ weeks from today.

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  140. Anon: I said I hope we will know shortly (as the deadline for fall is past, and we now know the details about overall applicants), but I am not certain. Be patient, as most fall transfer applicants would not have heard back yet anyway due to deadlines and projected timelines.

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  141. Hello, i am a transfer applicant for the summer term. I know its not up to you guys right now but the state. My problem is that since its getting really close to the summer and we haven't found out, i decided to look for an internship and found a really good one for this summer and would like to take it. Would i be able to move my transfer term to the fall instead?

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  142. Johnny: If there is no decision yet on your application, transfers can contact us at admproc@uga.edu and ask to have your file moved to fall term.

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  143. when do classes for the summer semester start

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  144. What is the size of the transfer applicants for fall?

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  145. Dgraves....
    First off I would like to thank you for providing information on this blog! My grandfather was the quarterback at UGA and Im hopefully a 3rd generation bulldog; I was wondering if there was any chance factors like these maybe looked at when comparing similar academic applicants?

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  146. Anon: Approximately 2,500 students have applied for Fall 2010 transfer admission.

    Anon II: When a freshman or a transfer student applies, we do not take the issue of UGA legacy into the review. Sorry about that, but hopefully your transfer hours and grades are strong enough for admission.

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  147. Anon: Summer classes generally begin in early June or early July, depending upon which summer term you choose.

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  148. What would you say the average GPA for accepted transfers is?

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  149. Anon: Since we have admitted so few transfers so far, any number I give would not be an accurate number in the grand scheme of things. In addition, since we look at transfers in two groups, 30-59 hours and 60+ hours, it also would not be accurate unless other factors were included.

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  150. Is the 30-59 hours larger or smaller than the 60+ hour group?

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  151. Anon: Generally, the 30-59 hour group is larger than the 60+ hour group.

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  152. Would you say that the 30-59 group is larger in terms of more people from that group are accepted? In other words, which group has a higher acceptance rate?

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  153. Katie: I have not done the research on which group has a higher acceptance rate, as it has no bearing on decisions.

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  154. Will the quality points earned for playing a sport be used in determining the transferable GPA?

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  155. Anon: I am not quite sure what you are asking, as playing a sport does not show up on a transcript. Now, if you are talking about taking a PE class, that is different. From our website, under non-transferable courses, we write "Some Physical Activities courses (1 semester hour may be used for class standing purposes)". In other words, a number of PE classes will not transfer, although we will use 1 hour towards class standing. You should review the transfer equivalency to determine if a class transfers or not, as some Health classes might look like PE classes, but are determined to be Health (or a similar type of class).

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  156. The school I am coming from shows my sport on the transcript and that I recieve both quality points and a grade as you would for any other class. I was curious if these quality points(4 each semester)and grades would be used in calculating my transfer GPA. Hope that makes my question it a little clearer.

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  157. Anon: Unfortunately, this new information does not help, as I have no idea what the courses are designated as, from PE to Health to whatever. If they are not transferable (which I am guessing would be the case), then they would not be used for GPA purposes. It all depends on how the classes are defined, and how we view them.

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  158. The class is labeled as PHED 1141 but I do not see it on the Transfer Equivalency system so i'm assuming that it does not transfer.

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  159. Would you say that acceptance for transfer students is fairly cut and dry? And by that I mean if you have between 30-59 transferrable hours and a 3.2 or higher GPA or 60+ hours and a 2.8 or higher GPA you WILL get in? I have already applied for Fall 2010, and meet the acceptance criteria(GPA,hours,and all courses transfer) Just thought I would ask!

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  160. Anon: Transfer admission is not cut and dry, but it is based upon less factors that freshman admission. As you have noticed by all my posts, we have not moved forward with transfer decisions for fall, and we are trying to determine how many students we can admit. As such, we may or may not be able to admit all the students who meet the consideration level, as it depends upon how many we can admit.

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  161. This past semester I recieved Deans List Honors. Will this award have any impact on the decision made on my application (I meet both GPA and hour requirements for sophmore status)?

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  162. Anon: This would not have an impact on the admission decision.

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  163. Would the major I have listed on my application effect my admission? The major on my application is not what I'm ending up majoring in. Thank you! These blogs are great!

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  164. Anon: No, the major would generally not have any impact on your decision.

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  165. When students find out if they were accepted or not, does it also let them know what UGA calculated their GPA to be and also how many transferable hours they have?

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  166. Anon: If a transfer student is denied, the letter will let them know what their GPA and transferable hours were. If they are admitted, they can generally see this at a later time when they register for classes.

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  167. I emailed the UGA undergrad about the transfer equivalency but I still haven't gotten a reply yet.

    2 of my classes are called BUAD1B** and Math1A** <> current equivalance (for UGA). I don't quite understand what these mean still. I am guessing these don't transfer?

    And if certain classes don't transfer, the grades that I have earned won't be counted towards my GPA correct?

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  168. Anon: I would suggest you be patient about a response, but also read the instructions about the transfer equivalency and what different things mean.

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  169. To the comment above me, yes those classes do transfer. The only ones that don't transfer have the letters NTFR or something like that in front of them which stands for Nontransferable reasons

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  170. Is there any chance that if UGA doesn't have definite answers from the legislature that they will postpone decisions past May/June?

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  171. Anon: Please review the main page of this blog for more information about transfers for Fall.

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  172. I attend the University of South Carolina in columbia and have taken completed their required math course for business majors math 122 (business calculus) and it says the equivalent is math 1T**Z and I do not understand what that would mean? Should I take the math that is equivalent to 2200 or can my requirement fulfill that math?

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  173. Anon: In the UGA bulletin, it states that one Terry College of Business requirement is as follows:
    All majors must complete the following courses in order to qualify for a Bachelor of Business Administration degree:

    * ACCT 2101
    * ACCT 2102
    * ECON 2100 or ECON 2200
    * ECON 2105
    * ECON 2106
    * FINA 3000
    * LEGL 2700
    * MARK 3000
    * MATH 2200 or MATH 2250
    * MIST 2090
    * MGMT 3000
    * MSIT 3000 or STAT 3000
    * SPCM 1100 or SPCM 1500 or SPCM 2300

    It states Math 2200 or Math 2250, which is not the elective course of 1T**Z (the one being a freshman level course). In addition, the transfer equivalency states the equivalent USC course for the Math 2200 and 2250, so I would suggest you move forward with one of these. As well, the instructions page of the transfer equivalency tells you more about what the elective course information means.

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  174. I'm trying to figure out my chances of acceptance to UGA if I am an out of state student from FL and I attend a junior college and I'm going to have my AA degree.

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  175. Anon: There is no difference in the decision for out-of-state students vs. in-state students. As well, we do not look at the AA degree as a factor in admissions. For transfers, our primary focus is on your college grades/GPA and the number of hours you have at the application deadline.

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  176. I have a few questions-
    I have attended 2 schools. One school was on the plus system, and I had a lot of B+'s and C+'s, and my GPA was a 2.8. I transferred to GA southern though and they took out the extra pluses, which dropped my GPA to a 2.5. Will ya'll take grades from both transcripts and use the plusses, or will you just use Southern's GPA? If pluses are added back in, I have about a 3.0.

    Also, hours-wise I am a junior, with almost 80 hours. But without AP credits, after this semester I will only have 54 hours of college coursework. Will I be considered a sophomore or a junior when I apply to transfer? It would be the difference between a potential acceptance or not.

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  177. Anon; UGA will be looking at each transcript individually, and we do not look at +/-, just the letter grade alone. If the AP shows up as hours and specific college courses on a transcript, then we can use them for transfer hours.

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  178. I had a 3.76 and 30+ hours before i applied to transfer to UGA, but last semester i got in a little bit of trouble with the school and was put on probation with the school. I have never been in trouble before and have completed all that was required of me and am now in good standing. Do you think this will have an effect on whether i am accepted or not?

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  179. Anon: It depends on what you did and what the resolution was for the issue. We will need to review the situation and your application before we can determine a course of action.

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  180. I work with college students who want to transfer to UGA and am occasionally asked this: should I report past arrests that are no longer on my record? If they have been through a first-offenders program and their records are supposed to be "wiped clean," prior arrests are no longer relevant, arguably. (Students don't really want to be dishonest, they're afraid their futures are 'over' because of past errors in judgment). In particular, one student had two felonies related to property on his record because he was advised to plead to those, and is afraid to let UGA know in case he won't be accepted (despite high GPA). Report or not to report? I would never advise a student to hide his or her record. Just wondering how relevant it is. I did read Dgraves response. Wonder if you could elaborate.

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  181. Anon: I expect our applicants to be truthful in what they put in the application, and the questions asked are if an applicant has ever been charged with, convicted of, or pled guilty or nolo contrendere to a crime other than a minor traffic offense, or are any criminal charges now pending against you. As such, they should say yes, and then give us an explanation of the situation and how they have responded to this issue. We do not have many students that we deny due to past conduct issues, but there are some, and we need honesty from the student. The worst thing would be to be admitted (or enroll), and then we have to pull their acceptance for now and the future due to false information.

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