Tuesday, December 8, 2009

EA Decisions and How to React


Early Action decisions will be later this week, so here are my suggestions on how to react to the decision you may receive.

Admit: Celebrate with family, buy a lot of UGA gear to wear for the holiday season, but remember that not everyone has received a decision of admission, and so be a little more low key with friends and classmates. In other words, do not run up to you best friend during English class and scream "I got into Georgia" while 10-15 of your classmates are mentally throwing daggers into your back.

Deny: While this is not a fun situation at all, the reality is that if you have been denied Early Action, you are truly not competitive for admission at UGA. It is not easy to write that, and it is very difficult to tell this to a student or parent, but when we look at this student's application in comparison with the other 11,600 EA applicants (and remember, we will get about 7,000 RD applicants as well), they do not match up academically with the others. It is better to tell you now instead of waiting until late March, as this gives you time to make other plans. Unless there seems to be a serious error (your are in the top of your class, take a very challenging course load, and have a strong test score), my suggestion is to not contact us about the decision, but instead move forward with plan B. While we do not mind talking with you at all, the reality is that an Early Action denial means an offer of admission from UGA is not a reality.

Defer: This is the most challenging one, as these are applicants who are truly strong students, but we want to see more about them (as well as the rest of the applicant pool) before making a final decision.  Please remember, this is not a denial at all, but instead a way for us to be able to review you in full, from your co-curricular activities, your essays, and your recommendations. This is your chance to let us know what you are like as an overall applicant. While this is probably not the answer you would like, I would suggest you treat it as a call-back for a second audition. Some roles have already been cast (or admitted), and we now want to look at you in more detail to see how you compare to the rest of the people auditioning (or applying). One of the worst things you can do is give up and not do part II. The second worst thing is to call us up and berate us for not admitting you. We will be happy to talk to people, but make sure to communicate in a positive tone, understand that we cannot talk about other applicants, and please remember that defer does not mean denial. At the end of last year (after all decisions, both during March and Wait List offers in May), just  under half of the deferred applicants who completed part II were later admitted. About 1300 deferred students did not complete part II, so we never even had a chance to even review them! If you are serious about UGA, take the time to complete your application, and then be patient as we review all of these files throughout Jan., Feb. and March.

I hope this helps!

22 comments:

  1. When do you think you will be able to put up the stats of the EA group this year? Just to know if I am in the range.

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  2. I am guessing I will have the stats available on Friday. Remember, though, that any mid-ranges are just that, ranges. As well, while I will post information, you need to make sure you know how to calculate the GPA we use (see GPA in the labels on the bottom right of the blog), as the GPA I post will be based upon what we use, not your high school.

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  3. Does part II of the application only request a teacher recommendation or can you also send an additional recommendation from an employer?

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  4. Hello.....i have a question with regards to GPA calculation. I understand that you add .5 to AP/IB courses...but what do you do with Honors Level courses? I attend a small private school that requires Honors Level courses before you can take an AP, so it's virtually impossible to take an AP before junior year. Do you add .5 to those as well? Also, when you calculate the GPA what would you do if someone got an A-? Do you calculate values for + and - grades?? Thanks so much!!

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  5. Part II of the application includes the activities/honors/involvement part, as well as the 4 short essays. In addition to this, we ask for a teacher recommendation, and we suggest an updated transcript with first sem. senior grades. You can send in an additional rec. from an employer, but try to limit your recommendations.

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  6. Anon with GPA questions: first, I would suggest reading the posts I have already written about GPA, as almost all of these things are covered in them. But so that everyone can see the information, here is a quick overview. We do not weight a student's grades for Honors courses, as they are not standardized like AP or IB courses. Almost all schools have students take Honors/Accelerated/Advanced courses before AP or IB. Where we do look at the Honors/Advanced courses is when we do a detailed review of a student's curriculum.

    As for +/- grades, we translate that to a 4.0 scale, so a B- is a B, and a B+ is a B (3.0). We do not calculate for +/- grades, but we do look at this type of trend when reading files.

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  7. O.K. So what exactly is late afternoon/early evening. I've surveyed friends, families, neighbors, etc. and some say 3-5, and others 4-6. What is late afternoon/early evening in bulldog country?:)

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  8. Anonymous: If I could give you an exact time, I would, but since this is not exactly an easy process (we are having to make decisions on 10,600+ applicants, post the decisions, and mail out the letters), we can't give you an exact time. We will try and post it as early in the timeframe as possible, but we also have to make sure everything is working correctly before we do that.

    As such, I figured that it was easier to give you about a 3 hour window instead of having you log on every 20 minutes starting at 7 am. Late afternoon/early evening is the best I can do.

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  9. I saw somewhere where your "average' student has taken 3-7 Ap classes. My child has taken 1, but a lot of Honors classes, and has a 3.9 GPA and 27 ACT. She applied early action. Is she competetive for early action based on this, or will the 1 AP hurt her?

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  10. Anon: I cannot say if only taking 1 AP will "hurt" your daughters chance to be competitive for EA, as I would want to look at what is available within her school (how many AP classes, Honors classes, dual enrollment options, etc), and how well she utilized her course options. The 3-7 average AP/IB courses is just to give you a broad understanding of the applicant pool, but a student must then look at this within the context of their opportunities.

    If she has a wide range of advanced course options (let's say 20+ AP courses, 25+ Honors courses), we would then try to understand how she has challenged herself, and this would be a part of the review. So yes, course selection is an important part of our review, but just like a number of factors, it has to be taken within the context of the overall options that the student has.

    I hope this helps!

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  11. As I am anxiously awaiting my admission decision from UGA, I have been reading through the EA blog posts. I wanted to thank you for your insight as the information shared has been very helpful. It is nice to see that there are many nerves awaiting late afternoon/early evening. No matter which way the decision goes tomorrow, thank you again. Go DAWGS!

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  12. Good luck to all those finding out tomorrow. We're just as anxious as you and we don't even apply till next year. Can't wait to see what the stats look like.

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  13. Whoo, it's going to be a long day!

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  14. I got deferred but when I clicked on the link for part 2 of the application it says that it can't find my application or that I'm not eligible for part 2. What do I do now?

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  15. Hi, i was recently deferred from UGA and i just have a few questions.

    1)What are my chances of being accepted to UGA since i was deferred - is it lower or higher than the regular decision students?

    2)In the Early Action pool, where they only looking at the students based on grades? So does that mean I will be now looked at for grades and extra curriculur activities?

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  16. Anon: There are a few deferred students that we need to work on (generally they applied by paper or through GA411) early next week to make sure they can do part II online. Be patient as we do this, but if by late next week, it is still an issue, contact our office through email (there should be a link off the page where you log into part II).

    Tamara: As I have said before, 1) deferred students are treated the same as RD applicants, and 2) in EA, we looked at grades, rigor of curriculum and SAT/ACT scores, where in the next step, we look at everything in the application (activities, essays, rec's, etc.)

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  17. Sorry if this is a little bit off topic but I couldn't find another place to post this. For those admitted EA, when will they find out if they were one of the auto-admitted students into the Honors Program? Also, if they aren't auto-admitted but still competitive for the Honors program, will they still get a letter letting them know they didn't get in at first but should still apply? Thanks, for any help you may be able to give me.

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  18. Anon: I expect that Honors will start to make decisions over the next few weeks. If a student does not get admitted in the Dec. timeline, I expect that a large # will then get a letter telling them how to apply. But I cannot say that all students will, as it will depend on their academic standing. Any student interested in Honors can go to their website and view the application (http://uga.edu/honors/p_s/apply_to_honors.html). It would also be good for a student who is interested in Honors to attend one of their information sessions.

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  19. What was the middle 50% range for SAT scores?

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  20. Anon: I am not sure which group you are looking for concerning SAT scores, so here is the link to last year's overall freshman profile: http://www.admissions.uga.edu/article/first_year_class_profile.html

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  21. Am I gambling when I apply for Early Admissions? Will it hurt my chances for regular admission?

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  22. Anon: As I have said in other posts, applying for EA does not help or hurt your chances if you are then deferred for a later decision timeline.

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